Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Part 1: President's debate.

So this evening was the big "Grub Match" presidential candidates debate at J & H. The candidates are TU Action's Kylie Patterson, and TU Dream Team's Gaelle Amazan. Part 2, and the final winner, will be brought to you on Wednesday. I know this will be a long post, so I'll jump right in. Remember, the scoring system is a simple +#/-# for good points and bad points. Most points wins!!

Question 1, posed to both candidates: Why did you want to run for TSG president?


Amazan answers that when she came in as a freshman, she was uninvolved and unfulfilled. Then, she joined Owl team, met some great people, got a taste of leadership and wanted more. So what did she do? She joined leadershape of course! She also joined the Haitian Student Org and Hearts(sp?) community service organization, as well as a sorority. Then she was involved! She went on to become the allocations chair this year, and met all kinds of students orgs, which she now loves. She loves students and their orgs so much that she wants to become President to help them get more out of Temple.

Cupcake question and cupcake answer. She's got love for the students and that kicks ass but as far as winning a debate is concerned, no points.

Patterson: She decided she wanted to be the woman with the plan after she went to different plays and student org. meetings and realized there was a lack of involvement. However, she doesn't think the stereotypes of students being apathetic is the reason, it's because they haven't been presented with the opportunities to get involved. She wants to be the pres. because she developed a great drive from her past activities( internships, gospel ministries, leadershape, RA, TSG finance committee and academic chair) and wants to imbue other Temple students with these same qualities.

Cupcakes for everyone! Kylie is driven, and like Forrest Gump, will have people following her. Ok no points, let's get to the good stuff.


Question 2 for both: "You were both members of the TSG senate this year, what's the most important bill you voted on?"


Patterson: The PA Relief Act bill. (Gov. Rendell and PA cut funding to all state owned and related schools, 18 in total, to the tune of 6%. Knowing this might mean tuition hikes, Rendell then makes the PA tuition relief act, which helps students coming from families making under 100 k by offering them up to $7,200 in grants every year. Except of course, he left Temple, along with psu, pitt and lincoln, out of it) So Ms. Patterson, along with current TSG pres Nadine Mompremier, drafted a bill telling governor Rendell that he's evil.

+1 Patterson. Yea, that was messed up Rendell, I thought you were my boy. Listen to Kylie and give us a slice.

Amazan: The AFSCME/TAUP bill. Ya'll remember that thing about union workers not being able to negotiate a contract wit the University?(which, by the way, is still the case) Well they came to TSG and asked for our support. So a resolution was presented, and Amazan voted for it because the unions are the backbone of the University and they are totally rad. However, the bill failed because some people didn't think it was important and abstained.

+1 Amazan. Normally I would give Amazan 1/2 because Patterson was responsible for drafting her bill while Amazan simply voted on the union bill. However, this case was particularly unique because Amazan voted for this bill, while Patterson abstained. I like the idea of supporting the unions. It should be noted that Amazan did not actually state this, so she lost out on driving that point home with the audience. However, in the interest of you, the loyal reader, I let you in on this info and scored it +1, with the next jump ball going to Patterson.

Question 3, for both: It has been stated it is difficult to get philly politicians on our side. Watcha gonna do 'bout that? For this question I' m switching the scoring format to awarding a point to whoever gives the better response.

Amazan: Amazan's VP running mate, Kevin Gerard, knows a bit about this. He was one of those lucky students living in Yorktown who got served eviction notices this year after locals went to their city reps and got them to dust off a 2005 law that says students can't live there (evictions are currently stayed until a suit filed by the landlords in that area against the law is settled). So that is why one of TU Dream Team's platform points is better communication between students and residents to relieve some of these issues. Also, Amazan said she is sure the Temple administration has connections to city hall so they'll use those in the future.

Patterson: "Most politicians hate bad publicity." So if you organize a large scale protest, like the sit-outs Temple students used to do, it will be effective in getting them to listen to us. Also we need to mobilize students to vote, because no politician is going to give a rat's ass unless we're united and threaten to vote as a block.

+1 Patterson. The question was about how to get politicians on our side. While Amazan's point that the root of the problem is in community relations is correct, the only response she had to how to actually get politicians to help us was through Temple's admin. connections. As can be seen by the Yorktown issue this year, Temple does not have those connections and could not pull those strings, and if it wasn't for the landlords filing suit 80+ Temple students would be out of their houses by now. Patterson recognized the need to threaten with student votes, and while she didn't exactly lay out a detailed plan to do this, it was still one better than Amazan's approach.

Question 4 to both: What are you going to do with the Good Neighbor Policy? Same scoring as question 3.

Patterson: First, get student input about what it means to be a good neighbor. Patterson says she is an RA and realizes people move off campus because they don't want to deal with the same rules. Making them agree and become liable to act in the same exact manner would be too much. Also, the landlords need to get involved and not just leave students in the frying pan, such as not providing resources like lawn mowers to students.

Amazan: One of the points of her platform, student life, deals with this issue. She wants to run neighborhood surveys to collate data on which streets have certain qualities in terms of safety and community relations, then release this data so students can see what street might fit best.

+1 to both. Patterson recognizes kids will be kids, and calls out the landlords as needing to be responsible as well. Amazan's survey idea is good as well, because she realizes that while kids will be kids, some kids will be more immature kids, so they should be able to see ahead of time where they can move to be happily immature without bothering the hell out of everyone else. However, Dream Team now loses the right to criticize TU Action's surveys because they themselves will be doing surveys. And neither ticket has a black-belt in surveys. Survey, survey, survey, survey.

Question Cinco to Patterson: You said you're going to have a lot of events, how are you going to advertise and get students out? The questions now move into an answer-rebuttal-clarify format, and thus scoring will return to normal

Patterson: Just to clarify, TSG does not host events, that's MCPB's job. At this point, all of the Main Campus Program Board attendees returned to their seats and sheathed their swords. Instead, TU Action will provide the resources, allocations, and know how to student orgs so they can do great events. They plan to advertise through TU news, and other Internet sources, such as THE CHERRY AND WHAT BLOG! SHOUT OUT!! And also when they are doing their weekly surveys, they will talk to students. They will engage students and be proactive instead of waiting on students.

+1 Patterson for realizing you gotta take it to the students and also explain to more orgs exactly how to do events. From now on I am offering +25 to the first candidate who can actually say how they are going to motivate students to give a damn.

Also, at this point in the debate, elections commissioner Casale goofed and forgot about the rebuttal, asked Amazan her next question, then rescinded it, then paused, and then told Amazan to rebut Patterson, to the bewilderment of the entire room. -1 Casale. +100 Casale for running a good election cycle.

Amazan's rebuttal: This sounds like it would be succesful, but is it realistic? No, it's unrealistic. Ooo, snap. You're right, TSG does have money, and you know who knows about it? Me, Amazan, because I'm the damn allocations chair. These sources of advertisement are old, TU Dream Team will offer new things.

+1/2 Amazan. Yea, she knows money and student orgs so I'm gonna give her that she will be more informed. But advertising, not just having articles written, is new and there was no rebuttal to going out amongst the students and actively engaging them.

Patterson's clarification: TSG has additional money, and if you get out there and tell students and connect to them, then....TIME UP!
No points. The first of many cutoffs caught Patterson by surprise and she never really got a point off.

Question 6 to Amazan: One of your main platform points state that 60% of Temple students graduate in 6 years or less, how are you gonna fix that?
Ok so the Cherry and What is sick of hearing this stat stated this way. From now on, C&W will make this less confusing and rewrite this stat to make more sense and say: 40% of Temple Students graduate after 6 years. +1 C&W

Amazan: She's been doing some research on this. Well that's a relief. And college kids just can't afford this crap. So, Amazan will help to create college councils, where students from each major will meet with the deans of their school to address specific issues. This will open up lines of communications and allow students with leadership skills to create positive changes for their major, which would assumingly be graduating with less than a Porshe's worth of debt.

+1 Amazan. Dammmn skippy! Say I'm a student who hates the fact that it's impossible to graduate in 4 years with my major. This is bull. I am empowered to be on a council and meet with my dean. My dean doesn't do shit, so I tell everyone else in my major that "he/she isn't doing shit and telling everyone to eat cake," so the students can get on his/her case.

Patterson's rebuttal: How the heck are college councils gonna help? If she had to guess, she'd guess they wouldn't work. The senators were supposed to answer these kinds of questions for their majors so if they didn't, why would a council? The problem is with advisers, who tell students to take 12 credits freshman year to ease their way in, than that kinda becomes normal and it puts students behind. Students are busy and don't ask advisers for the track to graduate on time.

Amazan: Because the senate wasn't tasked with this. All these councils would do is meet with their deans, so they have nothing else to focus on. My idea works.

+1 PattersonThe Cherry and What empowered you, the loyal reader, to decide which was the bigger issue with graduation rates: requirements or advisers? In the poll at the top, you definitely chose advisers, giving the point to Patterson for saying that's where the problem lies. You also just so happened to swing the total of the election to a 1 point Patterson victory. Oh, the power of the Cherry and What reader.

Score after 6 questions:

TU Action: 5
TU Dream Team: 3.5

Commissioner Casale: 99
and C&W: 1
Oh and J&H: +3 for all 3 slices of delicious turkey I ate.

Check the other posts for the final conclusions!







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